Curse

MercenaryKnight · Nov 01, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42

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Originally Posted by I Phoenix I

It's not ANet's fault that your preorder came late...

You could've just gone to a store or buy the game from the online GW Store...

ANet provided an alternative, and it's just your fault that you decided to take a different path.

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Originally Posted by rick1027

i dont think i like the idea. i've been in guild wars since a week after it all began. i have spent hours of no sleep to earn my hats of prior years and taken days off days from work to make events. so far i have all but one hat to say. it would deflate the value of them if some new person could get them by doing a quest even though it was for only one quest and a long one

To the first guy, they made the event what the day after their release? Yes that is poor planning on a.nets part. I don't intend to pay another 40-50$ for another copy of a game I have coming in the mail to get a hat, sorry.

I don't see how it can devalue an item. This is only for a one time thing. Like I said the option could be changed so it looks at when you activated your nightfall account.

If you activated a nightfall account within say 2-3 days or up to a week after a major event you could have access to that hat. Something simple.

I am not saying every hat was like this, but especially the fact that nightfall release date was so close to the event that gave most people practically no time to get it. And at the time they could of added a hat trader for even a few days after the event to be a bit more fair. But instead they left it as it was.

Which they have done for the dragon festival (which required some farming but still let them have the ability to get a hat for I believe up to a week after the event).

IslandHermet · Nov 01, 2007, 11:31 AM // 11:31

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I want to say that as a player, I disagree with this request. Whether it's "one per account" or not, it reduces the coolness factor of having "been there and done that" for the events. Some people make a lot of extraordinary effort to attend the event. Suddenly, that doesn't matter, you can do a quest, years later, and appear to have veterancy you do not, or appear to have been where you were not.

I know that this opinion may sound harsh or ungiving, and I don't want to give that impression. I'm truly sorry that not everyone was able to attend. I'm sorry that some bought the game later. But the hats are part of the experience, and making them available by other means is hardly any more reasonable than just selling them in the in-game store, which we have said we will never do. As we have said we will never sell the Collector's Edition emotes, but which we're asked to do daily.

Again, I'm very sorry that people missed getting the earlier items, and I do apprecaite that this may have happened for any number of reasons. My own opinions notwithstanding, I certainly will relay this request. Maybe the designers will implement this idea, but I rather suspect that they will not, for the reasons I've mentioned above.

The woman is right You missed it not Anets fault or responsibility to get you the hat you missed out on.

BabyJ · Nov 01, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

The woman is right You missed it not Anets fault.

I'm sorry, but i disagree with you. They released a game a day after the start of an event without even a thought as to mail times. Gaile also stated that people bought their games late which i did not. I preordered my game the day it was available for pre order. Now had they released the game a few days ahead of time people would have had the game and would have been able to attend. Or maybe if the store would have sent it out before release i would have got it in time. Either way it's done and over with and like i said, I'm not loosing any sleep over a hat but maybe anet will think about not releasing a game a day after an event has started.
I was really hoping for a witchs hat this year.

Edit: and to set the record straight I'm not one to complain about what anet does, (except this dim feature,LOL i hate it!) I love gw and they made a really awesome game. It's somethin me and my hubby enjoy doing together. And i actually bought my stepdaughter the game because she has shown interest in playin gw. And i commend gaile for puttin up with all the complaints, lord knows she has enough of them. But that still doesn't change my opinion that they failed on the part of releasing nightfall the day after the start of halloween event.

MercenaryKnight · Nov 01, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

One last idea that I had. Is if you got the pumpkin hat from lion's arch (thus you attended the event). You could get a pumpkin hat from the trader and turn it in to the hat guy to change it for the wicked hat. Basically you attended the event just fine (the one you were allowed to). So the whole "coolness you didn't attend" is no big deal.

So my opinion is if you attended and got the other hat you can use that hat to change it at the hat trader for a wicked hat because you did indeed attend the event, just for the people who were unable to attend the other one due to bad mailing.

payne · Nov 01, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40

its an item..therefore if its gained through a quest...the quest will be run by people in the services forum for money so lazy people can get their hat without effort...just my opinion

MercenaryKnight · Nov 01, 2007, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Solo quests problem solved for the above?

Loviatar · Nov 01, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by BabyJ

I'm sorry, but i disagree with you. They released a game a day after the start of an event without even a thought as to mail times.

flat out incorrect as they are always shipped to the stores with loads of time to spare and depending on your method of shipping arive 1-3 days before the release.

this is from personal experience since early beta with multiple accounts.

if you choose the us postal service to save a dollar or so check the stated delivery time which can be up to a week longer than 2nd day UPS (gamestop figures).

dont blame Anet for the postal service screw up mine are installed and waiting for activation days early

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Gaile also stated that people bought their games late which i did not.

so you chose the slow delivery

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I preordered my game the day it was available for pre order. Now had they released the game a few days ahead of time people would have had the game and would have been able to attend.

they did release early you chose the slowest available delivery option as compared to most everybody else who got it on time

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Or maybe if the store would have sent it out before release i would have got it in time.

they do ship it out before release or how else could UPS always have it for me without exception each and every time 1-3 days early?

they shipped yours out early with all the others but you chose the slowest delivery method available which i think is 7-10 business days in most cases.

not Anets fault

MercenaryKnight · Nov 01, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

We didn't choose the slowest method or else we wouldn't of gotten ours a day or 2 after the event (thus 2-3 day shipping). Most stores are oblivious to in game events, but anet should of taken notice to that and atleast put out a hat trader or something for a few days after the event.

My new idea that i want to change it to is.

If you attended the lion's arch event and got the other pumpkin crown, then added nightfall say up to a week after the event you can buy a pumpkin crown from the hat trader and then exchange it for a wicked hat. Because you DID attend the one event that you could go to. Thus their would be no worries about "people getting them that didn't try to attend" and instead would give the people who actually did try to attend but didn't get their nf on time.

I would also like to say that me and my gf preordered it the same day, same shipping options and she got it on time, I got it a day later. So don't say we just tried to save a few bucks and that it was our fault.

Mohnzh · Nov 01, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05

Putting an event so close to a release date is briliant. It basically rewards the in-game store shoppers (which I have not done). They knew what they were doing, whether anybody likes it or not. They are in the business of making money, and if you want something bad enough, get it quickest by buying straight from them.

Saraphim · Nov 01, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

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I'm sorry, but i disagree with you. They released a game a day after the start of an event without even a thought as to mail times.

Hmm.... but the hat was given out on 31st no? so that was 4 days after the official release of the game?

As far as i can recall the only thing that has ever had availability issues was the Collector's Edition of Factions, which is why people were given the minipet Kuunavang by way of a 'sorry it didn't turn up on time' for those that were affected.

On topic - I can't say as I'm bothered either way about the hats. I missed the Wicked Hats but I can live without it, on the other hand I wouldn't begrudge people who have don't have pumpkin helms to earn one some other way.

lyra_song · Nov 01, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

MercenaryKnight: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Pq8PwHFhy8

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I would like all the ectos that could have dropped for me, but i wasnt in UW at the time because of time constraints. So please let me have a chance to get something i wasnt there to get.

I will agree to you, if you will agree with me.

Loviatar · Nov 01, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Mohnzh

Putting an event so close to a release date is briliant. It basically rewards the in-game store shoppers (which I have not done). They knew what they were doing, whether anybody likes it or not. They are in the business of making money, and if you want something bad enough, get it quickest by buying straight from them.

check the calendar then stop acting like you need more tinfoil on your hat.

nightfall had a 6 month after factions release date of end of oct.

halloween is also the end of october.

no big marketing conspiracy

payne · Nov 01, 2007, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

Solo quests problem solved for the above?

hmm yer but if they were solo they couldnt be long and really hard as described in the original post as this would isolate the item from being gained from the majority of players

william1975 · Nov 01, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

heh well Gaile may not agree with it, but at least she is goign to put it to the team, which is more than some would do.

Sure i woudl like to get hats i missed on, but i wasn't here for them. I suppose what would be more reasonable would be to allow those that may have accidently deleted their the ability to regain them at the hat maker, even if they didnt show them theirs

MercenaryKnight · Nov 01, 2007, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

MercenaryKnight: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Pq8PwHFhy8

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I would like all the ectos that could have dropped for me, but i wasnt in UW at the time because of time constraints. So please let me have a chance to get something i wasnt there to get.

I will agree to you, if you will agree with me.

Sorry but first of all your completely off topic. This is a wee bit different than giving ectos to someone who never went in to the uw. I went to the only event I could go to because my nf didn't arrive. So that would mean that my character did "attend" the event it's just that I was unable to get the second hat due to nf key issues.

Secondly I did attend the halloween event. It was just that I was only able to attend the Lion's Arch event. So I could say that my character attended the event and thus should be able to get the hat. If they would of done something to think about mailing delays (such as a few days after ability to get a hat). Or make it so if you attended one festival and added a key a few days after the event their was a possibility to get the other hat you missed for unfair reasons.

Lonesamurai · Nov 01, 2007, 09:52 PM // 21:52

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I want to say that as a player, I disagree with this request. Whether it's "one per account" or not, it reduces the coolness factor of having "been there and done that" for the events. Some people make a lot of extraordinary effort to attend the event. Suddenly, that doesn't matter, you can do a quest, years later, and appear to have veterancy you do not, or appear to have been where you were not.

I know that this opinion may sound harsh or ungiving, and I don't want to give that impression. I'm truly sorry that not everyone was able to attend. I'm sorry that some bought the game later. But the hats are part of the experience, and making them available by other means is hardly any more reasonable than just selling them in the in-game store, which we have said we will never do. As we have said we will never sell the Collector's Edition emotes, but which we're asked to do daily.

Again, I'm very sorry that people missed getting the earlier items, and I do apprecaite that this may have happened for any number of reasons. My own opinions notwithstanding, I certainly will relay this request. Maybe the designers will implement this idea, but I rather suspect that they will not, for the reasons I've mentioned above.

what about those of us that DID get the hats and subsequantly deleted them for storage space before you added the hat trader?!?!? I want my Tengu mask back... and my dragon mask... and the forst and second years halloween hats and the first years christmas hats hank you very much....

BabyJ · Nov 01, 2007, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

so you chose the slow delivery

they shipped yours out early with all the others but you chose the slowest delivery method available which i think is 7-10 business days in most cases.

not Anets fault

Excuse me, but i DID NOT chose the slowest possible. And yes the stores do get the game before the release date but they DO NOT SALE before the release date and they DO NOT ship it before the release date. At least not the stores i order from. And for a matter of fact the event started on the 26th, nightfall was released on the 27th, so my game was probably shipped on the 28th to allow 1 day for processing and i got my game the day AFTER the event ended which would be Nov 1st. So if you do the math thats 3 days for shipping not 7-10 like you claim that i chose the slowest shipping. And like i said, the hat is not that big of a deal and I'm not losing sleep over it but in the future anet needs to think about things like that before they release a game AFTER an event as such has started. And furthermore i never said it was anyones fault but they should have took into consideration about mass orders of a new release and the shipping times with a new release as close to an event. kthnkbye

Lumenil · Nov 05, 2007, 06:25 AM // 06:25

I agree. I have had the same problem. My NF copy was lost by mail service, and I had to ask for another. I could not buy a copy in the ingame shop or from a retail store, because I had already payed my preordered copy and it was not refundable. So I could attend only the LA event, and I havent got the wicked hat. If they would just enable the kamadan hat maker to exchange a wicked hat for a pumpkin hat, it would be great.

Operative 14 · Nov 05, 2007, 07:47 AM // 07:47

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I want to say that as a player, I disagree with this request. Whether it's "one per account" or not, it reduces the coolness factor of having "been there and done that" for the events. Some people make a lot of extraordinary effort to attend the event.

I agree. Like Dragon Festival 2007, those people that weren't able to show up for it, attend the events, and get their hat on July 7th were unlucky, but they didn't attend the event so tough luck for them. I'm glad, however, that I was able to attend on the 7th becuase that definately made it so I could have the "coolness factor" of my very own demon mask, and even more so becuase only a seemingly small minority had access to it!

(Hopefully the sarcasm of the above paragraph is apperant.)

Just ask my friend as well, he was out of town and had me attend using his account in his stead so he could get a demon mask. Quite an extraordinary effort on his part, having faith that someone from the other side of the planet, that he has never even seen face to face for that matter, wouldn't steal his account. All so he could get a simple hat.

Luckily those people who were unable to attend that event were able to come back a month later for Dragon Festival Reduex! My friend had a blast acctually attending in person.

Some might argue that this reduced the "Coolness" factor of my own demon mask, but... I don't care. I have seen a lot of people arguing against the idea of being able to get hats from past festivals, and I can honestly say that their logic is very sound and persuasive. However, I have to ask, exactly what will be lost if an anonymous populous suddenly sprouts more witches hats?

Last question: When did festivals stop being about fun, and become about attendance? I have my hats becuase they are fun reminders of a great festival, not becuse they are some sort of mission patch for being in attendance at a meeting. And, I have to say, it's a lot of fun to see people running around in festival hats becuase it brings back memories of the event itself, and, possibly, just a tiny bit of the community spirit exhibited during these events. I for one wouldn't mind mind seeing more of them in circulation.

/Signed for the original Idea BTW, it's a great mix of work ethic and play ethic.

I missed my witches hat.. and honestly I really wouldn't mind having to go through Mad King Thorns dungeon to get it.

Hyper.nl · Nov 05, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

I have to agree with Gaile on not giving hats as other reward. The hats are a nice way of telling you were at certain festivals. There are enough nice hats already and there will be even more. The value of the old hats is that it's a nice way to show you were at the old events. Giving away hats as quest reward will make it lose that value.

So, my vote is /notsigned, even tho I would like to own a dragon mask. (I'm only playing GW for a year so I was not there at the first DF)